Have you ever ordered from brambleberry? I love, love, love this website. They have all kinds of soapmaking, bath product, candle making supplies. They also sell packaging materials and have links to great tutorials. One problem though, I always order too much. I just ordered bottles and fragrance oils for the linen sprays I am making and candle scents for the candles. I'm sure there are cheaper places to buy these items but brambleberry's products are high quality and the customer service is very helpful. Give them a try!!